Trying to stop a real democrat from being the party’s nominee, Schumer recruited Maine’s lame-duck, milquetoast governor to run against Platner, knowing she would not challenge the corporate order. He raised truckloads of corporate cash for her, hoping to suffocate the oysterman’s populist uprising.
Or to fulfill the apocalyptic prophecies/warnings of the Bible and force the next messiah to come save life on Earth from their deadly beliefs and machines of mass destruction. A corporation is not a living being, it has no soul. Former President Eisenhower also warned US of the danger of the Military Industrial Economy
When will the people's party embrace its desperate need for fresh blood and fresh ideas? Schumer is blocking any attempt to change the old order because it suits him so well. We say, give him the boot! All in favor say AY!
Chuck Schumer has long been an ally of the insurance industry, like centrist democrats tend to be, especially health insurance, which is all about profits, huge pay to CEO's and putting patient welfare in dead last place. Dead is cheaper, after all, making mangled careless that much more profitable. In NY State, this has resulted in insurance refusing to pay legitimate billing from the major hospitals, like Mt, Sinai, still owed hundreds of millions for patient care, past due. It also has resulted in unethical, illegal practices, like refusing care to people in need of it and a vast alteration of physician careers as hospitals, robbed of appropriate payments, go bankrupt or have to join in one of the huge hospital systems that are big enough to fight back with mangled careless insurance, Schumer's friends. Northwell a survivor of these wars with insurance now operates 28 hospitals in NY and CT. Private practices have collapsed and thrown doctors onto the merciless assembly line work at these big systems, removing their professional autonomy, reducing their pay and status and forcing them to work madly, a patient every 15 minutes, with numbers seen in annual reviews the criteria for keeping this lousy job or getting fired.
Claiming that they are scraping by, barely, these corporate robbers throw millions of dollars to politicians, like Schumer, to buy their votes and bend public policy toward the insurance companies. They pay their executives 10 to 30 million a year, while denying care to children with cancer. This is why Louis Mangione killed a United Healthcare CEO making 10 million a year. That CEO made all his money by denying needed health care to people who paid their all-too-large insurance premiums to cover their medical care. This is what Schumer is helping to support. He needs to go and new leaders are needed to restore the government of, by and for the People to doing what it's supposed to do.
This business about the national Democratic Campaign Committee has begun to be widely discussed, which is a very good thing. I've felt for years that a number of our excellent candidates -- Al Gore, Hillary Clinton, and especially Kamala Harris -- have been prevented from speaking their good minds by the scaredy-cats at the national committee: Don't offend ANYBODY is apparently the main idea. The realization that the national org is a big, wet, sour-smelling blanket is finally revealed. Pablum is not nearly so tasty as greens with vinegar in 'em.
I think that U.S. Senator Bernard Sanders would have won the U.S. Presidential Election in 2016 if the Democratic party had supported him instead of Hillary Clinton.
I don't know about that, Linda Leee -- you may be right, but Senator Sanders was a bit too far left for even many Democratic voters But Hillary being a female was against her no matter how popular she was in the Democratic party.
We think we can offer a theory: Donald Trump could not win against a man. He is deeply insecure and weak. Think of the way he treated women - no real man needs to do that. But it worked for enough people to help him win. Both Hillary and Kamala were way more qualified, and so was Bernie. MAGA? How about TWAL - Trump Won, America Lost?
In my opinion the 2024 U.S.Presidential Election had no winner as roughly 1/3 registered voters voted other than Democrats or Republican and neither party had a majority. S.C.O.T.U.S. allowed the criminal indictments from the lower courts only if Donald Trump was not sentenced or impeded in any way from taking the White House in January of 2025. Yes, l agree with you that the United States lost.
Only too much for the center-right D elite "leadership" comfortable with the deeply unfair econ system and beholden to their corporate sponsors. What Bernie supports is no more than the New Deal. Ideas abandoned when the party went neolib. Besides, Bernie consistently polls as most respected and most trusted U.S. Senator. Not that the bar is very high for that one...
As far as (up)Chuck Schumer and his legion of corporatist Democrats-In-Name-Only are concerned, we're mere "pledging units" who are to give as much of our money to Corporatist Democrats, who will then work with Republicans to advance the cause of the billionaire class.
Oh, (up)Chuck will say he's for helping "downtrodden Americans" but we all know the only thing (up)Chuck is going to do is write a "strongly worded letter" -- and we've all seen where those "strongly worded letters" have gotten (up)Chuck -- HE CAPITULATED TO DONALD TRUMP EVERY SINGLE TIME.
Mills is way too old, and I say that as an old person. We desperately need the next generation to take over the Democratic party, Schumer is years past his sell by date.
David Hogg and the movement he and those survivors inspired is as relevant today as it was when their school was attacked. They keep courageously sweeping against a tide that one day, if we are to survive, will ebb.
I agree that Platner is younger than Mills, and I have a real issue with her age (she'd be 79 by the time she took office), and I tend toward the progressive end of the spectrum, but I don't know if he's better. Nazi tats, anyone? Careless rhetoric?
As for Janet Mills being the "milquetoast governor," I remember when she stood up to Trump as he insulted and bullied her in the White House over the (non)issue of trans athletes in Maine. That was just a year ago if you don't remember. Just a few days ago, she stood up to Dr. Oz and Trump over Medicare and Medicaid. Gratuitous insults and forgetting recent history are low blows, Mr. Hightower. I know it feels good to cosplay as "more radical than thou" but it doesn't build coalitions.
Platner may well win the nomination (this looks likely right now), but it's unclear he can beat Susan "I'm very concerned" Collins. If he's nominated I'll support him. But I question whether he's better or worse than Mills.
In any case, I'm sick of the moderate-vs.-progressive Dem infighting. The issue is whether you stand up to Trump. Mark Kelly, Jason Crow, Chrissy Houlahan, Elissa Slotnick, Maggie Goodlander, and Chris Deluzio all were attacked by Trump when they made a video encouraging military personnel not to obey illegal orders. All are considered moderate Democrats.
I agree that many Democrats' ties to corporate America are bad news for the nation, and have often hindered the fight against the fascist Trump regime. I called Bernie Sanders's D.C. office in 2015 the day Hillary, the ultimate corporate Democrat, announced her 2016 presidential run (he was still considering running at that point but hadn't entered). I told the staffer who answered: "I have one message for Sen. Sanders: 'Run, Bernie, run!' " I supported him in both the 2016 and 2020 primaries. But gratuitous insults don't help, and the progressive and moderate wings of the party need to find common ground.
I realize that this may not be a popular opinion on this thread. I can't wait for the insults to start.
Schumer was my best friend's boyfriend in the 1970s. He was a self-promoting, arrogant, cheap young man then. He's one of the reasons we have a Trump in the White House. He cares about nothing but lining his own pockets.
Interesting the tell-tale signs were visible back then! The D party was still predominately New Deal, but by the late '70s was being taken over by neolibs. Probably related to the '71 Powell Memo. As early to the corporate and 1%er friendly "New Dems" he was ahead of his time. Of course it's really a return to the good ol' days of Robber Barons and banksters.
BTW, the current econ system is derived from assumptions like the only real human motivation is individual personal gain, profit. Implies anyone talking about the common good, labor solidarity, caring about the least among us, is just a liar or a demagogue.
schumer, jeffries, et al are the worst. The wannabe king is up front with his absolute desire to oppress. chuck and the other palantir pals pretend to be working for our well-being and sell us out every time.
Schumer showed us who he was and what he didn't stand for in 2016. "For every blue collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania we'll pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs of Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin." Further evidence--how he and his corporate Dem allies behaved in NYC. They openly conspired with the Rs, going so far as to get Trump's endorsement for Cuomo. Seems their only concern is retaining power for themselves. But WHY do we need two Republican parties?!
Uh, those blue collar Ds you disdain were the backbone of FDR's New Deal Dem party. You know, the ideals and the class you abandoned decades ago to go neolib, supporting the current trickle up econopathy. Who cares the Rust Belt is rife with deaths of despair? As HRC said, they're a basket of deplorables. Of course.
Well, the working class is still the majority. Its ranks grow more angry and desperate as the middle class shrinks since there are so few good paying jobs and more lost every day. Nor are those few jobs at all secure. Look around. MDs and university professors are becoming industrialized; just anther form of post modern assembly line workers. It isn't difficult to figure out status quo is not a politically persuasive message.
Rafi Simonton, good for you! I haven't disliked Charles Schumer, but maybe it's time to reassess a bit. In any case, I'm glad to see people talking about the New Deal so much -- The more I know about Franklin Roosevelt and what he did, the more miraculous it shows itself to have been.
It's about time that Schumer got put in his place. Apparently the upper echelon of the Democratic party never learns from history. Their major f-ck up in the last election should have told them something. They basically abandoned the middle and lower class workers and found themselves scratching their respective asses and wondering why. This move on Schumer's part is exactly the reason why. Let the people of Maine vote their candidate.
Disgusting. Schumer is also backing the corporate AIPAC Dem for MI Senate, as the U.S. takes on Israel's illegal and sadistic war tactics against Iran.
We need young people with their ideas rather than old ones with only the desire not to be replaced!
How about old people with new ideas? I'm 88 and and I agree fully with Jim - and with you too!
If Chuck wants to shovel corporate shit, get him a pair of overalls and a job on Wall Street.
Or to fulfill the apocalyptic prophecies/warnings of the Bible and force the next messiah to come save life on Earth from their deadly beliefs and machines of mass destruction. A corporation is not a living being, it has no soul. Former President Eisenhower also warned US of the danger of the Military Industrial Economy
Great one...MI--Economy. Exactly!
A good set of letters is former CIA analyst Ray McGovern's MICIMATT. Military Industrial Congressional Industrial Media Academia Think Tank complex.
That set of letters sounds really expensive
Good point! Why we can't have nice things anymore. Infrastructure, well funded public schools, healthcare...
Schumer did the same thing in NC and pushed Cal Cunningham on us and we ended up with Thom Tillis.
Schumer needs stop, he is out of touch.
When will the people's party embrace its desperate need for fresh blood and fresh ideas? Schumer is blocking any attempt to change the old order because it suits him so well. We say, give him the boot! All in favor say AY!
Ay
Aye! Although we need much more than a voice vote.
Ay. Replace him with AOC!
Aye Yiyi !
Chuck Schumer has long been an ally of the insurance industry, like centrist democrats tend to be, especially health insurance, which is all about profits, huge pay to CEO's and putting patient welfare in dead last place. Dead is cheaper, after all, making mangled careless that much more profitable. In NY State, this has resulted in insurance refusing to pay legitimate billing from the major hospitals, like Mt, Sinai, still owed hundreds of millions for patient care, past due. It also has resulted in unethical, illegal practices, like refusing care to people in need of it and a vast alteration of physician careers as hospitals, robbed of appropriate payments, go bankrupt or have to join in one of the huge hospital systems that are big enough to fight back with mangled careless insurance, Schumer's friends. Northwell a survivor of these wars with insurance now operates 28 hospitals in NY and CT. Private practices have collapsed and thrown doctors onto the merciless assembly line work at these big systems, removing their professional autonomy, reducing their pay and status and forcing them to work madly, a patient every 15 minutes, with numbers seen in annual reviews the criteria for keeping this lousy job or getting fired.
Claiming that they are scraping by, barely, these corporate robbers throw millions of dollars to politicians, like Schumer, to buy their votes and bend public policy toward the insurance companies. They pay their executives 10 to 30 million a year, while denying care to children with cancer. This is why Louis Mangione killed a United Healthcare CEO making 10 million a year. That CEO made all his money by denying needed health care to people who paid their all-too-large insurance premiums to cover their medical care. This is what Schumer is helping to support. He needs to go and new leaders are needed to restore the government of, by and for the People to doing what it's supposed to do.
Goodness! (up)Chuck Schumer is going to have to write a very strongly worded letter about this!
/snarkasm
maybe he can ask Susan Collins for help writing the letter.
This business about the national Democratic Campaign Committee has begun to be widely discussed, which is a very good thing. I've felt for years that a number of our excellent candidates -- Al Gore, Hillary Clinton, and especially Kamala Harris -- have been prevented from speaking their good minds by the scaredy-cats at the national committee: Don't offend ANYBODY is apparently the main idea. The realization that the national org is a big, wet, sour-smelling blanket is finally revealed. Pablum is not nearly so tasty as greens with vinegar in 'em.
I think that U.S. Senator Bernard Sanders would have won the U.S. Presidential Election in 2016 if the Democratic party had supported him instead of Hillary Clinton.
I don't know about that, Linda Leee -- you may be right, but Senator Sanders was a bit too far left for even many Democratic voters But Hillary being a female was against her no matter how popular she was in the Democratic party.
2016 Hillary Clinton VS Donald Trump and in 2024 Kamala Harris VS Donald Trump. Go figure
We think we can offer a theory: Donald Trump could not win against a man. He is deeply insecure and weak. Think of the way he treated women - no real man needs to do that. But it worked for enough people to help him win. Both Hillary and Kamala were way more qualified, and so was Bernie. MAGA? How about TWAL - Trump Won, America Lost?
In my opinion the 2024 U.S.Presidential Election had no winner as roughly 1/3 registered voters voted other than Democrats or Republican and neither party had a majority. S.C.O.T.U.S. allowed the criminal indictments from the lower courts only if Donald Trump was not sentenced or impeded in any way from taking the White House in January of 2025. Yes, l agree with you that the United States lost.
Only too much for the center-right D elite "leadership" comfortable with the deeply unfair econ system and beholden to their corporate sponsors. What Bernie supports is no more than the New Deal. Ideas abandoned when the party went neolib. Besides, Bernie consistently polls as most respected and most trusted U.S. Senator. Not that the bar is very high for that one...
Apparently there is no bar for our current criminal U.S. President except the one that the government is swinging to hit US over the head with.
Primary Schumer when it is time. Meanwhile vote him out as leader.
Jim:
As far as (up)Chuck Schumer and his legion of corporatist Democrats-In-Name-Only are concerned, we're mere "pledging units" who are to give as much of our money to Corporatist Democrats, who will then work with Republicans to advance the cause of the billionaire class.
Oh, (up)Chuck will say he's for helping "downtrodden Americans" but we all know the only thing (up)Chuck is going to do is write a "strongly worded letter" -- and we've all seen where those "strongly worded letters" have gotten (up)Chuck -- HE CAPITULATED TO DONALD TRUMP EVERY SINGLE TIME.
Mills is way too old, and I say that as an old person. We desperately need the next generation to take over the Democratic party, Schumer is years past his sell by date.
Sell by date? No problem. Schumer sold out years ago.
Expired, unhealthy, or rotten things should be tossed out.
Composted.
Only if non-toxic.
Good point.
Support David Hogg and Leaders We Deserve...on the smart right path.
David Hogg and the movement he and those survivors inspired is as relevant today as it was when their school was attacked. They keep courageously sweeping against a tide that one day, if we are to survive, will ebb.
David Hogg and the Parkland kids seem to be the only people that still call bullshit.
I agree that Platner is younger than Mills, and I have a real issue with her age (she'd be 79 by the time she took office), and I tend toward the progressive end of the spectrum, but I don't know if he's better. Nazi tats, anyone? Careless rhetoric?
As for Janet Mills being the "milquetoast governor," I remember when she stood up to Trump as he insulted and bullied her in the White House over the (non)issue of trans athletes in Maine. That was just a year ago if you don't remember. Just a few days ago, she stood up to Dr. Oz and Trump over Medicare and Medicaid. Gratuitous insults and forgetting recent history are low blows, Mr. Hightower. I know it feels good to cosplay as "more radical than thou" but it doesn't build coalitions.
Platner may well win the nomination (this looks likely right now), but it's unclear he can beat Susan "I'm very concerned" Collins. If he's nominated I'll support him. But I question whether he's better or worse than Mills.
In any case, I'm sick of the moderate-vs.-progressive Dem infighting. The issue is whether you stand up to Trump. Mark Kelly, Jason Crow, Chrissy Houlahan, Elissa Slotnick, Maggie Goodlander, and Chris Deluzio all were attacked by Trump when they made a video encouraging military personnel not to obey illegal orders. All are considered moderate Democrats.
I agree that many Democrats' ties to corporate America are bad news for the nation, and have often hindered the fight against the fascist Trump regime. I called Bernie Sanders's D.C. office in 2015 the day Hillary, the ultimate corporate Democrat, announced her 2016 presidential run (he was still considering running at that point but hadn't entered). I told the staffer who answered: "I have one message for Sen. Sanders: 'Run, Bernie, run!' " I supported him in both the 2016 and 2020 primaries. But gratuitous insults don't help, and the progressive and moderate wings of the party need to find common ground.
I realize that this may not be a popular opinion on this thread. I can't wait for the insults to start.
We respect your opinions. Hopefully, nobody on this thread will stoop so low as to insult you for them. (BTW, we love Bernie too.)
Schumer was my best friend's boyfriend in the 1970s. He was a self-promoting, arrogant, cheap young man then. He's one of the reasons we have a Trump in the White House. He cares about nothing but lining his own pockets.
Enough of him! He should step down-now!
Interesting the tell-tale signs were visible back then! The D party was still predominately New Deal, but by the late '70s was being taken over by neolibs. Probably related to the '71 Powell Memo. As early to the corporate and 1%er friendly "New Dems" he was ahead of his time. Of course it's really a return to the good ol' days of Robber Barons and banksters.
BTW, the current econ system is derived from assumptions like the only real human motivation is individual personal gain, profit. Implies anyone talking about the common good, labor solidarity, caring about the least among us, is just a liar or a demagogue.
Aye!
Schumer has once again used his leadership skills to prove that democrat leadership is an oxymoron. Time to retire his lame humble mumble
Aye
schumer, jeffries, et al are the worst. The wannabe king is up front with his absolute desire to oppress. chuck and the other palantir pals pretend to be working for our well-being and sell us out every time.
Schumer showed us who he was and what he didn't stand for in 2016. "For every blue collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania we'll pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs of Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin." Further evidence--how he and his corporate Dem allies behaved in NYC. They openly conspired with the Rs, going so far as to get Trump's endorsement for Cuomo. Seems their only concern is retaining power for themselves. But WHY do we need two Republican parties?!
Uh, those blue collar Ds you disdain were the backbone of FDR's New Deal Dem party. You know, the ideals and the class you abandoned decades ago to go neolib, supporting the current trickle up econopathy. Who cares the Rust Belt is rife with deaths of despair? As HRC said, they're a basket of deplorables. Of course.
Well, the working class is still the majority. Its ranks grow more angry and desperate as the middle class shrinks since there are so few good paying jobs and more lost every day. Nor are those few jobs at all secure. Look around. MDs and university professors are becoming industrialized; just anther form of post modern assembly line workers. It isn't difficult to figure out status quo is not a politically persuasive message.
Rafi Simonton, good for you! I haven't disliked Charles Schumer, but maybe it's time to reassess a bit. In any case, I'm glad to see people talking about the New Deal so much -- The more I know about Franklin Roosevelt and what he did, the more miraculous it shows itself to have been.
It's about time that Schumer got put in his place. Apparently the upper echelon of the Democratic party never learns from history. Their major f-ck up in the last election should have told them something. They basically abandoned the middle and lower class workers and found themselves scratching their respective asses and wondering why. This move on Schumer's part is exactly the reason why. Let the people of Maine vote their candidate.
Disgusting. Schumer is also backing the corporate AIPAC Dem for MI Senate, as the U.S. takes on Israel's illegal and sadistic war tactics against Iran.