The rich have won, there is nothing we can do against them. We see how major corporations are destroying the world, mining companies are digging in the most pristine areas in Haiti and the Dominican Republic, polludini the only river in that area, but they want their 20 billet of dollar they will get with the goldt and aridion, brunch of creeps🇩🇴🌎❣️🌺🙏
The truth about plastics has been around long enough that the citizenry should have solved this problem by not buying the toxic products. Why haven't we? Extreme consumerism. They are cheap, convenient and we believe corporate marketing, (alternative term for lies). Once again, we have found the enemy.
And it is us as well as them. My current sins include silicone microwave popcorn poppers and omelette makers. But that cuts down on use of my polluting gas stove. I stopped home composting because I don’t have a car to get to the compost bin on the other side of town, but I use laundry sheets (no big plastic bottles) and buy seaweed in flat small packaging (no plastic tray). Consumers can make a difference!
Composting is tailored for use as an INDUSTRIAL operation. It has no place in your backyard because you can't apply the controls it needs. You have no need for it. It adds nothing to your simple, applicable response to food wastes. Just cut up your food into small parts (or make it into a smoothie with water in a grinder) and place it on any soil available to you. Millions of microbes will chew it up immediately. You will get the full fertilizer value of the food. Composting it is unnecessary. The recyclers,, who have no clue how to handle waste situations, came up with composting and they try to sell the hell out of it. Don't buy what they're selling. Small pieces on soil is your simple, true and best goal.
The community garden uses the compost to improve the soil. I live in a co-op apartment, They might not appreciate my soil smoothies, but I could ask. Thanks for the suggestion.
I am old enough to remember when few products were packaged in anything but glass, paper or tin cans. So, I try hard now (at age 70 yrs.) to avoid buying anything made of, or packaged in, plastic. It’s hard, but doable. The key is buy less stuff! The NYS Legislature will consider the NY Packaging Reduction and Recycling Infrastructure Act in 2024. It will put the responsibility for “recycling” and dealing with plastic trash back on the manufacturer, instead of consumers and local municipalities. Go “Beyond Plastics”!
Who remembers when Coca-cola was available (and only available) in those green glass bottles. The bottling plants took back the glass bottles, washed them, then re-used them. What a novel idea!
growing up all we had were paper straws and we didn't have a problem with them. I now use aluminum straws and they get washed in the dishwasher when it's full. I also can use a brush made just for cleaning these straws.
I try to avoid plastic when at all possible and have now started purchasing laundry detergent that comes on dissolvable sheets, because as the commercial says…. You already have water! I found a deodorant that comes in a cardboard tube… baby steps where ever I can!
There is only one way to make a difference in the torrent of waste products we are drowning in. That is, to do the hard work of researching just how to redesign goods for reuse, instead of for discard as we do now. This applies to everything, including even plastics, believe it or not. The quick and easy and dirty approaches are appealing because they don't require much real work. You don't have to ask how goods are designed, and why, and what hidden flaw is put in to make sure that they quickly become unusable when the warranty runs out. The next time that someone begins to emote to you about recycling, or circular economy, or biodegradability, don't just nod your head. Think scientifically about the real meaning of what they are saying. These are worse than half measures, they are one-tenth measures that have no prospect for success, and have universally been failures. Recycling has never worked anywhere (except for a brief time when the Chinese pulled our paper and plastic chestnuts out of the fire for us.) That's all over. Recycling is dead. But the anti-scientists keep pushing it anyway.
What reuse means, in reality, is reuse of FUNCTION, not materials. Function is what a product is made to DO! Reusing bare materials is a shuck. It affects the physical existence of waste, which convinces people who react viscerally, to believe that it has value, but the real waste, which took place when a low grade, unreusable product was made at great expense in an expensive factory, using up water, air, heat, electricity, labor etc. - that is not touched. If a product loses its function, it joins the torrent of waste products. If it retains its function, it will be valued and used and some new product will not have to be made in that factory. Scientific thinking is the key. See gettingtozerowaste.com and look at the paper Nuts and Bolts of Zero Waste Theory.
I hope people will push plastics made from hemp,& corn oils which are biodegradable in 5 yrs.So how long is it going to take for the bought & sold manufacturer & media to change this .
After seeing tiny pieces of plastic in the water at a beach in Hawaii and the small fish trying to eat them, I try to avoid plastic, nearly impossible in the rural area I live. We don't need fancy bags for groceries. Take every free one offered, don't mind supporting those who help. Thank restaurants who use paper take-out boxes and mention to those who don't that ---- down the street does and you are spreading the word. Too much money in this to pass any laws but LOTS of small steps from all of us can do it.
1) A comprehensive set of suggestions for how to live entirely without plastic. this could include the use of permanent personal containers that are reused indefinitely, As well as totally biodegradable materials.
2) the complete outlawing of plastic manufacture, including rules about alternative biodegradable materials, being the only legal packaging.
3) strong research into rounding up existing plastics and finding ways to destroy them, which (is this even possible?) Are entirely nontoxic.
Plastic has become a major evil because of its impact on the natural world. We need somehow to find a cultural shift that prevents us from thinking it’s easy to throw stuff away. And that teaches us to value well constructed, reusable tools and items. This, of course would include containers.
Tucson has borrowed technology from a California company, where plastic is turned into building blocks. Sounds "nice"; however, that plastic molecule is with us for a very LONG time. For future synthetic discoveries, we need to create a group that explores the future effects of these molecules,, and ban anything that looks unhealthy to humans and the environment.
The rich have won, there is nothing we can do against them. We see how major corporations are destroying the world, mining companies are digging in the most pristine areas in Haiti and the Dominican Republic, polludini the only river in that area, but they want their 20 billet of dollar they will get with the goldt and aridion, brunch of creeps🇩🇴🌎❣️🌺🙏
The truth about plastics has been around long enough that the citizenry should have solved this problem by not buying the toxic products. Why haven't we? Extreme consumerism. They are cheap, convenient and we believe corporate marketing, (alternative term for lies). Once again, we have found the enemy.
And it is us as well as them. My current sins include silicone microwave popcorn poppers and omelette makers. But that cuts down on use of my polluting gas stove. I stopped home composting because I don’t have a car to get to the compost bin on the other side of town, but I use laundry sheets (no big plastic bottles) and buy seaweed in flat small packaging (no plastic tray). Consumers can make a difference!
Composting is tailored for use as an INDUSTRIAL operation. It has no place in your backyard because you can't apply the controls it needs. You have no need for it. It adds nothing to your simple, applicable response to food wastes. Just cut up your food into small parts (or make it into a smoothie with water in a grinder) and place it on any soil available to you. Millions of microbes will chew it up immediately. You will get the full fertilizer value of the food. Composting it is unnecessary. The recyclers,, who have no clue how to handle waste situations, came up with composting and they try to sell the hell out of it. Don't buy what they're selling. Small pieces on soil is your simple, true and best goal.
The community garden uses the compost to improve the soil. I live in a co-op apartment, They might not appreciate my soil smoothies, but I could ask. Thanks for the suggestion.
It has become nearly impossible to avoid getting plastic, no matter what you buy. It is indeed omnipresent and impossible to recycle.
Go to the beaches and rivers near you, take cotton nets and fish out the plastic and then DUMP it all in Congress!
I would love to see that happen......
I am old enough to remember when few products were packaged in anything but glass, paper or tin cans. So, I try hard now (at age 70 yrs.) to avoid buying anything made of, or packaged in, plastic. It’s hard, but doable. The key is buy less stuff! The NYS Legislature will consider the NY Packaging Reduction and Recycling Infrastructure Act in 2024. It will put the responsibility for “recycling” and dealing with plastic trash back on the manufacturer, instead of consumers and local municipalities. Go “Beyond Plastics”!
Who remembers when Coca-cola was available (and only available) in those green glass bottles. The bottling plants took back the glass bottles, washed them, then re-used them. What a novel idea!
paper straws and bags work just as well, and can be reused and will decompose. NOW let us do something!
growing up all we had were paper straws and we didn't have a problem with them. I now use aluminum straws and they get washed in the dishwasher when it's full. I also can use a brush made just for cleaning these straws.
Paper straws suck! Prefer to wash and reuse plastic straws. Paper bags are good for recycling paper, but cloth bags better for grocery shopping.
I try to avoid plastic when at all possible and have now started purchasing laundry detergent that comes on dissolvable sheets, because as the commercial says…. You already have water! I found a deodorant that comes in a cardboard tube… baby steps where ever I can!
There is only one way to make a difference in the torrent of waste products we are drowning in. That is, to do the hard work of researching just how to redesign goods for reuse, instead of for discard as we do now. This applies to everything, including even plastics, believe it or not. The quick and easy and dirty approaches are appealing because they don't require much real work. You don't have to ask how goods are designed, and why, and what hidden flaw is put in to make sure that they quickly become unusable when the warranty runs out. The next time that someone begins to emote to you about recycling, or circular economy, or biodegradability, don't just nod your head. Think scientifically about the real meaning of what they are saying. These are worse than half measures, they are one-tenth measures that have no prospect for success, and have universally been failures. Recycling has never worked anywhere (except for a brief time when the Chinese pulled our paper and plastic chestnuts out of the fire for us.) That's all over. Recycling is dead. But the anti-scientists keep pushing it anyway.
What reuse means, in reality, is reuse of FUNCTION, not materials. Function is what a product is made to DO! Reusing bare materials is a shuck. It affects the physical existence of waste, which convinces people who react viscerally, to believe that it has value, but the real waste, which took place when a low grade, unreusable product was made at great expense in an expensive factory, using up water, air, heat, electricity, labor etc. - that is not touched. If a product loses its function, it joins the torrent of waste products. If it retains its function, it will be valued and used and some new product will not have to be made in that factory. Scientific thinking is the key. See gettingtozerowaste.com and look at the paper Nuts and Bolts of Zero Waste Theory.
Recycling plastic doesn't work but aluminum, cardboard, tin, copper, paper and other materials is essential.
Thanks. Will follow up
I hope people will push plastics made from hemp,& corn oils which are biodegradable in 5 yrs.So how long is it going to take for the bought & sold manufacturer & media to change this .
After seeing tiny pieces of plastic in the water at a beach in Hawaii and the small fish trying to eat them, I try to avoid plastic, nearly impossible in the rural area I live. We don't need fancy bags for groceries. Take every free one offered, don't mind supporting those who help. Thank restaurants who use paper take-out boxes and mention to those who don't that ---- down the street does and you are spreading the word. Too much money in this to pass any laws but LOTS of small steps from all of us can do it.
I would like to see:
1) A comprehensive set of suggestions for how to live entirely without plastic. this could include the use of permanent personal containers that are reused indefinitely, As well as totally biodegradable materials.
2) the complete outlawing of plastic manufacture, including rules about alternative biodegradable materials, being the only legal packaging.
3) strong research into rounding up existing plastics and finding ways to destroy them, which (is this even possible?) Are entirely nontoxic.
Plastic has become a major evil because of its impact on the natural world. We need somehow to find a cultural shift that prevents us from thinking it’s easy to throw stuff away. And that teaches us to value well constructed, reusable tools and items. This, of course would include containers.
TY for the beyond plastics link. Very informative and yes, scary.
Went to Oregon coast a few weeks back and was astounded by the plastic on the high tide line.
I have not been to the beach for several years and the amount was much greater!
I picked up a small potato chip bag, and filled it quickly. I took it home and analyzed what was in it.
We have to stop making this c...
We need to clean it up!
Tucson has borrowed technology from a California company, where plastic is turned into building blocks. Sounds "nice"; however, that plastic molecule is with us for a very LONG time. For future synthetic discoveries, we need to create a group that explores the future effects of these molecules,, and ban anything that looks unhealthy to humans and the environment.
Recycling doesn't do much. Best is to not use plastic in the first place, then there is no recycling issue.
Don't buy the lie if you can avoid it and Re-Use the plastic containers for repacking other waste